Minutes of the Granite Community Council

Date: November 7, 2018

Location: Metropolitan Water District Offices Conference Room 3430 East Danish Road

Council Members Present:
Michael Braun, Chair (Dist. 1 & 2); Gorm Klungervik, Vice-Chair (Dist. 1 & 2); Greg Schiffman (Dist. 3); Vaughn Cox (Dist. 3); Katie Clayton (Dist. 4); Drew Weaver, Treasurer (Dist. 4); Nycha Schlegel (Dist. 5); Bill Clayton, Secretary (Dist. 6); and Mary Young (non-voting Chief Administrative Officer (CAO)).

Council Members Absent:
Jeff Summerhays (Alt., Dist. 1 & 2); Spencer Mortensen (Alt., Dist. 3); Josh Kanter (Dist. 5); and Susie Albertson (Dist. 6).

Guests Present:
Kirk Cullimore, incoming Senator for District 9
Ron Vance, Salt Lake County (SLCo) Planning Commission
Tod Young, Mountainous Planning District Planning Commission
Det. Paula Stinson, Unified Police Department (UPD)
Sandy Police Chief Bill O’Neal
Mike Gladbach, Sandy City Director of Public Works
Matthew Huish, Sandy City CAO
Pam Roberts, Exec. Dir. Wasatch Front Waste & Recycling District (WFWRD)
Ryan Shelton, SLCo Communications Manager
Residents: Ron Faerber, Mike Galieti

Call to Order: The meeting was convened at 7:00 p.m. by Michael Braun, Chair, who led attendees in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Minutes: The minutes of the last meeting of Oct. 3, 2018 were approved unanimously as written and will be posted to the Granite Community Council (GCC) website, www.granitecommunitycouncil.net.

Drew Weaver announced that the Poulson House (1) has been listed on the National Historic Register. This will enable an easier restoration process in terms of meeting codes.

Wasatch Front Waste Changes Affecting Granite: Pam Roberts spoke about possible options for waste management next year for the unincorporated islands in this part of the valley.

At the suggestion of Wasatch Front Waste & Recycling District (WFWRD) Exec. Dir. Pam Roberts, Sandy City has proposed to the WFWRD Board that they (Sandy) take over the trash services for all those who have already been annexed into Sandy (these are reflected by yellow dots on the map that’s included with these minutes). We would then be served by Sandy’s Waste Management, starting on July 1, 2019. This allows time for the public and legal processes. The WFWRD Board has agreed with this action and Salt Lake County (SLCo) will need to approve the action. Pam wants to run this by us in Granite, who are the only ones affected by this action.

What services would change? The differences between the service is mainly that WFWRD provides green bins for green waste and Sandy does not. However, Sandy is now providing glass recycling. As you can see on the map, not many residents use the green bin anyway, so this may not be a major factor.

The reason for doing this: WFWRD has to pay $4/mile for their trucks to do waste pickup and Granite is the only area that they currently serve with lots of islands in it.

One option would be for the islands to stay with WFWRD, and have WFWRD contract directly with Waste Management Corp., which already serves Sandy. Another option would be for the unincorporated islands to de-annex from WFWRD and contract directly with Sandy, in which case Waste Management Corp. would collect the garbage in the islands and Sandy would charge its cost plus a processing fee. Sandy pays half-price for use of the Transjordan Landfill, so this approach might cost a bit less. Some Council members expressed concern that this could lead to Sandy being able to forcibly annex those islands that already get other services from Sandy, such as water. Matt Huish from Sandy City attempted to allay these fears. He also said that Sandy’s next fiscal year begins July 1st 2019, so if we decide to contract with Sandy we would need to let them know before then.

Drew suggested that we stay with WFWRD and have them contract directly with Waste Management.

Greg suggested that WFWRD get bids directly from Waste Management and a competitor. Greg also offered to pay for a mailer that would go out to Granite residents explaining the options and asking for input. [Update: He hasn’t yet been able to do this, but will do so if the GCC stills wants this to happen. Since this may not occur in time for SLCo’s decision, additional data from Ms. Roberts has been provided below and in the addendum, to better inform residents of potential future actions and how to voice any concerns about them.]

What will probably change in the future? Because of this potential impact on residents in terms of future increased waste fees, Pam has stated that further changes would occur later to the purple-dot residences on the map, those who are still in the unincorporated County. With those residents in the County, WFWRD would still be providing service to those islands, which is cost-ineffective. It is thus likely that the WFWRD board will decide to ‘de-annex’ them (i.e., no longer provide waste services directly to them). However, when action needs to be taken with them, WFWRD would retain its responsibility to them, by providing waste service either by contracting through Sandy or they could provide service through another waste management provider. Pam’s response on this issue was: ‘The thought and possibility of WFWRD contracting directly with a private hauler came about [recently] and I definitely am willing to evaluate and explore that option to make it happen if the residents so desire and it makes sense for our remaining customers.’

We don’t know when that might happen. This is what Pam would like feedback on, from the Granite Community Council (GCC) and/or residents, whether we go with Sandy’s Waste Management or another contractor that provides identical services as we get today (this logically would seem to eventually cost more, as the same provision of service to islands would occur).

How can residents provide input to this issue? Pam attended this meeting of the GCC with the intent of providing an overview, and fielding questions/concerns. She felt it’s important that everyone understands that she started the conversation with Sandy and the possibility of de-annexing the 403 [already annexed] properties. The decision to pursue is Sandy City’s. The final say is SLCo’s. Residents who could not attend but wish to provide input may send an email to Mary Young, at tmayoung@xmission.com, or directly to Pam at proberts@wasatchfrontwaste.org.

Update from SLCo: Ryan Shelton alerted the Council to the proposed property-tax increase for the Municipal Service District (MSD). Details are available at msd.utah.gov/. There will be a public truth in taxation meeting on Dec. 5th at 6:00 pm. Details are available at the same website.

The County Mayor released the proposed 2019 county budget, available at slco.org.

Greg asked about projected MSD budget deficits. Ryan said that the county has already proposed a tax increase (presumably separate from the proposed MSD tax increase) that will add $3 million to the MSD budget next year.

What lies in the Future? Ron Faerber, Chair of the League of Unincorporated Community Councils (LUCC) spoke. He handed out copies of a letter indicating that all LUCC members oppose any increases in MSD fees and/or property taxes. There’s currently a $32 million budget for the MSD.

The MSD Board has proposed moving planning and zoning responsibilities from the county to the MSD.

The MSD Board is still looking into applying a storm water fee in January which would produce another $3 million annually.

Ron expressed the opinion that aggressive annexation is happening, and that it might make sense to include annexed people in historic areas within community councils. [which is the same proposal that Tod made in recent months, which the GCC is trying to move forward with]

Ron recommends that the MSD Board should add an at-large board member who would represent all areas served by the MSD.

Unified Police Department (UPD): Det. Paula Stinson advised that the October crime stats were relatively clean.

A new radar speed sign has been installed on the north end of Dimple Dell. More enforcement is being conducted there and UPD is writing lots of tickets.

Paula told us that if a citizen has a gut feeling about something that looks suspicious, they should call the police. The direct number for UPD dispatch is 801-743-7000.

Sandy Police: Chief O’Neal reported that 911 calls are now transferred instantly to the correct dispatch facility. Sandy PD’s average response time is 3 minutes for a 911 call. The various 911 CAD systems in the valley now work together, but we don’t yet have a single county-wide CAD system. That project is still in the process of being implemented. As part of the implementation, the records-management systems will get integrated.

The Sandy Police dispatch number is 801-799-3000.

GCC Restructuring Proposal: The Council continued the discussion of redefining the Granite Community to include everything within the historical boundaries of Granite, and enabling residents living in annexed areas to get elected to the Council and have voting powers on the Council. The problem that we’ve been seeing is that Cottonwood Heights does not consider that residents outside its boundaries can be impacted by its decisions, such as the loss of bicycle lanes on Wasatch Blvd. and their decision on the design of the High-T intersection, which decidedly impacts our residents. Sandy City has at least asked the GCC for our input on zoning changes that are adjacent to areas of unincorporated Granite.

Tod and Mary Young offered to approach the appropriate officials in Cottonwood Heights, Sandy, and Salt Lake County to discuss the possibilities and any potential ramifications.

Michael expressed the opinion that Cottonwood Heights (CH) does not want to hear from anyone who’s not a resident of that city, and that any recommendations made by GCC to CH would likely be ignored.

Nycha said that she is not convinced that people in Sandy and CH should have a vote on GCC because the voice of Council members living in unincorporated Granite would get diluted by those living in Sandy and CH.

Tod suggested that under the proposed structure, the only GCC members who would be eligible to vote on Sandy issues would be those members who live in Sandy, the only members eligible to vote on CH issues would be those who live in CH, and the only members eligible to vote on unincorporated county issues would be those who live in the unincorporated areas of Granite. Issues that transcend municipal boundaries could be voted on by all members.

Drew said that such an arrangement would require a lot of work and would only be worthwhile if Sandy and CH agree to grant some sort of standing to GCC.

Greg expressed concern that GCC would be setting up elections in jurisdictions where we’re not authorized to do so, and said that a legal opinion should be obtained before we proceed.

Katie stated that any potential changes to the structure of GCC would need to be looked at very carefully.

Nycha proposed that we consider allowing people who own property in unincorporated Granite to be on the Council, even if their primary residence is elsewhere.

The idea was floated of mailing out a survey to Granite residents to collect their opinions, but no decision has yet been made.

Website Update: Tod reported 21 attacks against the website. The site had 30 legitimate hits on November 4th. Peak traffic was 314 hits on July 3 of 2017, presumably for info about the 4th of July parade. Michael suggested putting the GCC website url on all mailers and also suggested that we send out mailers more frequently.

State Senator-Elect Kirk Cullimore: Kirk spoke to the Council and was asked to describe his background and his reason for running for office. Kirk grew up in Willow Creek and is married to a Granite native. He studied music at BYU and played the violin professionally for 6 years, then attended law school at the University of Oklahoma. He practiced American Indian law there and represented various tribes before moving back to Utah and working at his father’s law firm, which represents apartment owners around the state. Kirk has served as the Government Affairs Chairman of the Utah Apartment Association and has served on several other committees.

Kirk said that his primary motivation for running had to do with education. His children got an excellent education at Catholic schools in Oklahoma, but when the family moved to Utah and the children were put into the public school system here, he observed many problems related to high-stakes testing requirements and certain other aspects of Common Core. He claims that many teachers spend half of the school year “teaching to the test” rather than actually educating the students. He has served as a volunteer on various school committees.

The GCC appreciated Kirk’s presentation and encouraged him to return at any time in the future.

Treasurer’s Report: The graffiti-cleaning supplies reimbursement for Scott Whipperman has already been approved, as have polling expenses. Checking has $1,875.18; Savings $12,844.64; with a Total of $14,719.82.

Additional Business: Mary said that the Forest Service would like to see the establishment of a private tax-exempt non-profit group (proposed name: Friends of the Salt Lake Ranger District) as a way to get private donations and to organize volunteers to help with various projects. The Salt Lake Ranger District only has 8 full-time employees to cover a large and heavily-used area and also lacks the funds to do a proper job of maintaining the forest lands under its purview. Various groups and entities could participate in this “Friends” group. She is attending ongoing meetings on this to help District Ranger Bekee Hotze.

The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 pm.

Mary submitted the following information relevant to waste collection and recycling after the GCC meeting had adjourned:
At a County meeting where this was discussed, Mary had reminded Pam that we formed service districts with the whole idea of providing continuous service for a stable base of residents (‘economies of scale’), so this action seems to be going against that philosophy, but it is really costing them too much to provide this island-by-island service. That affects costs to other residents.

At the same County meeting, some unincorporated residents raised the issue that Sandy is more likely to annex residents once they are providing an additional municipal service to them. Mary called Sandy’s Asst. Chief Administrative Officer, Korban Lee, to ask about this and get the story straight. He referred her to Utah State Code Title 10, Chapter 2, Sect. 418 (10.2.418), which provides four different ways to annex properties, only one of which involves provision of municipal services.

(1) On Mt. Jordan Road, at Dimple Dell Regional Park


Minutes of the Granite Community Council

Date: October 3, 2018
Location: Metropolitan Water District Offices Conference Room

3430 East Danish Road

 Council Members Present:

Michael Braun, Chair (Dist. 1 & 2); Gorm Klungervik, Vice-Chair (Dist. 1 & 2); Greg Schiffman (Dist. 3); Vaughn Cox (Dist. 3); Katie Clayton (Dist. 4); Drew Weaver, Treasurer (Dist. 4); and Mary Young (non-voting Chief Administrative Officer).

Council Members Absent:

Jeff Summerhays (Alt., Dist. 1 & 2); Spencer Mortensen (Alt., Dist. 3); Nycha Schlegel (Dist. 5); Josh Kanter (Dist. 5); Bill Clayton, Secretary (Dist. 6); and Susie Albertson (Dist. 6).

 Guests Present:

Ron Vance, Salt Lake County (SLCo) Planning Commission

Tod Young, Mountainous Planning District Planning Commission

Monica Zoltanski, Candidate for Senate District 9

Eric Kraan, member of Salt Lake County Bicycle Advisory Committee (SLCBAC)

Randy Thomas, Unified Police Department (UPD) Midvale Precinct Chief

Det. Paula Stinson, UPD

Ryan Shelton, SLCo Communications Manager

Rick Graham, SLCo Deputy Mayor Operations

Madeline Galang, SLCo Transportation Engineering Manager

Ralph Becker, Central Wasatch Commission (CWC) Executive Director

Jesse Dean, CWC Deputy Director

Lindsey Nielsen, CWC Communications Director

Chris McCandless, Sandy City Councilman and CWC Chair

Residents of Granite/Sandy: Sandra Haak, Mark Pollish, and Carol Pollish. 

Call to Order: The meeting was convened at 7:00 p.m. by Michael Braun, Chair, who led attendees in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Minutes: The minutes of the last meeting of Sept. 5, 2018 were approved unanimously as written and will be posted to the Granite Community Council (GCC) website, www.granitecommunitycouncil.net.

Update from SLCo: Ryan Shelton announced that on Oct. 10-11, Salt Lake County and SLCo Emergency Management are hosting a free two-day conference to help people be prepared for, respond to, and recover from possible emergencies. This will be held at the Utah Cultural Celebration Center, 3100 S. 1355 W., West Valley City. To register, see slco.org/emergency-services or call 385-468-7130. Different tracks will be geared to present: technical info for engineers, first responders, municipalities needing to develop or update their Emergency Operations Plan, and for small businesses and the general public seeking community emergency response team (CERT) training, cyber security awareness and continuity planning.  Breakfast and lunch are free, as well as parking.

Michael asked Ryan if someone in the County could possibly separate the listing of voters which he’s received recently, in preparation for our GCC 2018 elections by mail, into our districts. Ryan will ask about this, but other council members recommended that Michael use the maps and listing that Tod has created for past elections to update our listing. Ryan also indicated that it’s possible that the County could provide a GIS overlay onto our district maps.

Madeline Galang provided a quick update on sidewalk projects in Granite: For the 10000 S. sidewalk project, the County continues to work on right-of-way (ROW) issues with three of the residents whose properties are affected. Progress has been slow and ROW’s have been challenging. But they’re not giving up and hopefully next spring we’ll see some progress. The plan is for a sidewalk on the north side and trail on the south side of the road, along with a curb, which is needed to prevent further degradation of the road pavement.

On Little Cottonwood Rd., one resident doesn’t want to participate in having a sidewalk across the front of their properties (two parcels) and so they plan to build around them. On both of these projects, SLCo has been working closely with Sandy City which is working on their parts of the projects.

On 114th S., all of the property owners are in agreement and the County is just working on getting one more ROW signature. They plan to complete this project early next spring.

All of these projects are related to nearby schools and both residents and the County are doing their best to provide safe routes for children to get to school.

Central Wasatch Commission Q&A: Ralph Becker, Executive Director; Jesse Dean, Deputy Director; and Lindsey Nielsen, Communications Director.  Ralph indicated that he and the CWC staff were here to provide an update on the CWC and Central Wasatch National Conservation and Recreation Act (CWNCRA) and answer questions. He reported that they’ve met with all affected community councils as well as city councils. Chris McCandless, CWC Chair, noted that early on, there were several government entities that wanted to be members of the commission and it took a lengthy process to seat them. Currently the members are: Chris, Sandy City Councilman and Chair; Jackie Biskupski, SLC Mayor and Vice-chair; Jim Bradley, SLCo Councilman and Treasurer; Ben McAdams, SLCo Mayor and Secretary; Mike Peterson, Cottonwood Heights Mayor; Harris Sondak, Alta Mayor; Jeff Silvestrini, Millcreek Mayor; Andy Beerman, Park City Mayor; Chris Robinson, Summit County Councilman; and Carlos Braceras, UDOT Director. Chris said that they are getting some great input from the new members.

Ralph was hired on June 1st this year. Jesse was recently hired as Deputy Director, while Lindsey was hired as Communications Director. They now have a functioning website: cwc.utah.gov.

They are the focal point for coordinating solutions to issues, to implement the Mountain Accord, to protect our mountains and canyons. This involves coordination of transportation, toilets, and trails[1]. They are working on an environmental dashboard[2] for everyone’s use.  They hope to reduce redundant studies, saving money for taxpayers.

In the spring, they were asked by Utah’s legislative team to work on reintroducing a bill earlier introduced by Rep. Chavez. They received hundreds of comments on that, have responded to those, and there have been two drafts of the bill so far. There are larger issues that they’re working through, several of which they discussed at the meeting.[3]

  1. Alta Ski Lifts land exchange—the management has changed and they now want to hold onto Grizzly Gulch. Everyone is at the table discussing the issue and they’re getting closer to agreement but not there yet.
  2. Bonneville Shoreline Trail—this would require removing some areas from designated wilderness. This is moving along well.
  3. White Pine Road issue regarding whether mountain bikes should be allowed on the road. The So. Despain Ditch Company (SDDC) attorney is against this, but Drew advised that the issue hasn’t yet been voted on by the entire ditch company board. Another issue is the protection of water rights for the ditch company. Ralph advised they’ve met with Drew and reps from Sandy City and plan to contact SDDC attorney Dale Kimsey. Chris noted that this is a priority. Drew provided Chris with Dale’s contact information.

Ralph reported that there has been legislation passed by Congress that improves the US Forest Service’s fire-fighting capability. This bill also includes language regarding this need.

Katie asked Ralph what he meant at a recent Sandy meeting that “White Pine is a keystone to this bill.” Ralph explained that with existing uses (including heli-skiing) the kinds of protection required for wilderness are not appropriate. The uses require a different kind of protection, namely as a Special Management Area.

The Commission is committed to letting SDDC utilize the road (in the Aug. 2nd version of the bill). Drew feels that what is in that version is inadequate. Ralph replied that this will be worked further. Chris added that their goal is to protect the interests of the SDDC.

There were questions from some GCC members regarding the Monday meeting of the CWC, which they didn’t hear about until the last minute. Lindsey reported that it went up on the Utah Public Notice website on Thursday before the meeting and other meeting attendees had it on their calendars as a regularly-scheduled meeting.

Vaughn asked what the timetable is for reintroducing the bill to Congress. No precise timetable is scheduled yet, but all the members of the Utah legislative team are supportive of the bill. The CWC and staff want the GCC’s and other groups’ interests to be resolved before submission.

It was suggested that we put information about the CWC meetings on the GCC website, which we will do.

Bike lane policy/ordinance re encroachment/Bike lanes on Dimple Dell: Eric Kraan/Madeline Galang. Madeline reported that a 2014 traffic study      of Dimple Dell was done in partnership with Sandy City (she will send a copy of this study to Mary for transmittal to others). The handout she provided from this study shows Dimple Dell ROW widths, with two travel lanes and two bike/jog lanes in a 45’ ROW. This also includes a sidewalk on one side.

She explained the Strava data for Dimple Dell Rd., which she provided a handout on. This app shows there’s a significant amount of traffic on the road, more than most other roads in the area. The Strava app provides distance traveled, elevation changes, and other data that is used by bicyclists and runners. The brighter lines on the map show the greatest usage. Eric said, at a recent SLCBAC meeting, he received an explanation of how this data can be broken down.

The council discussed with Madeline and Eric the difficulties in adding sidewalks, shoulders, and bike lanes. It seems that it would be incredibly expensive to do this all along Dimple Dell Rd., especially with the probable need to purchase ROW’s from residents (given the problems and delays of doing this with just very short sidewalks in other areas of Granite). Many residents are really attached to the rural feel of having no sidewalks or curbs and seem affronted by seeing sidewalks put in, with various small developments along the road, which have been required by Sandy City[4]. Eric suggested that the rural feel of Dimple Dell Rd. is what draws people there. He was surprised at the amount of traffic that UPD reported there from their recent counts. With population growth, this will certainly increase.

It does seem that it’s bad now for the bicyclists and walkers along the road. Mary asked Chris to explain the proposal that he made several years ago when Sandy and the County were working together with some residents to try to design some greater safety into the road. He had proposed establishing an asphalt trail separate from the road and parallel to it. Even this single asphalt trail would probably be quite expensive due to ROW issues.

Chris recommended that Sandy City and the County try to work together again to create something that will add the greater safety that we desire. Some council members liked Chris’ proposal.

Madeline advised that bicyclists have a right to be on the road—in the lane—just as cars do. Some drivers don’t seem to recognize that right.

Eric noted that putting lines indicating very narrow bike lanes along the road might give a false sense of security.

Madeline suggested that what we should do is widen the road, but she’d first like to update the data. Part of any study would include getting feedback from residents. It was also suggested that we need public engagement before even striping the road.

Michael asked if the County could send out flyers to residents along Dimple Dell asking for their input to these suggestions and issues.

The question was asked as to whether, as an interim measure at least, we could put some signage along the road that asks drivers to share the road.[5]

Eric then introduced to the council the SLC ordinance regarding not allowing cars to park or drive in bike lanes. He wanted to know if this were something that the Granite community could support on roads around our community.  Some members agreed that this might be doable.

Unified Police Department (UPD): Det. Paula Stinson reported that UPD plans to put the traffic counting/speed sensing device at a location further north on Dimple Dell.  It had previously been placed on the east-west section of the road. She has looked for, but not found, any accident data related to bicycles[6]. She noted that our greatest number of accidents on the road have involved deer crossings. She also reported that the crime stats for Granite have been delayed and she’ll get them out to us when they’re available. She further reported that UPD had a call on taggers in the canyon, but when they found the suspected taggers, there was no evidence on or around them that could be used to charge them.

Mary reported that Judge Shauna Graves-Robertson, of the SLCo Justice Court, had emailed her recently (after Mary called her to talk about sentences for convicted taggers), to ask for help in sentencing a recently convicted tagger to community service using graffiti removal. Mary referred her to Serena Anderson, Exec. Dir. of Cottonwood Canyons Foundation, who will help arrange for this community service and talk further with the judge about doing more of this with convicted taggers.

GCC Discussion: Restructure (Tod Young): Tod had proposed a way of expanding the GCC’s influence on neighboring cities whose decisions often adversely impact our Granite residents.[7] The proposal would entail allowing residents of the boundaries of the Granite community as defined in the Granite Master Plan to run for elected council seats. These would be residents who have been annexed into the adjacent cities of Sandy or Cottonwood Heights.

Katie stressed that we don’t want to do this fast, e.g., in time for this year’s election, but it does seem to be what we will have to do for the future. It needs to be done carefully and thoughtfully. We will need to redistrict and change our bylaws (besides the obvious steps of coordinating with adjacent cities and the County).

Vaughn expressed the concern that representatives from the cities can dominate our council and dilute the unincorporated area’s issues. We potentially lose our identity by doing this.

Drew reminded the council that, per ordinance, if you’re not a resident of the unincorporated County, you can’t be on the council. This could work with just unincorporated/Granite residents voting on unincorporated issues, but we could have more influence on Sandy and CH, if they agree to pay attention to, support, and accept our council.

Greg noted that, if we did create such an expansion of the council, he didn’t think that the unincorporated residents would accept the idea.

Drew suggested that we talk to Sandy and CH before we go further with the proposal.

GCC Discussion: Elections (Michael Braun):  Michael reported that he has gotten an estimate from XXX to print, stuff, and mail our ballots, originally for about $1700. However, since Mary advised him that we can use Utah Neighborhood’s nonprofit postage, the cost for creating and mailing about 720-750 ballots is likely to be more like $800. So far, only Mary had volunteered to help him, but Greg, Katie, and Gorm all agreed to help wherever necessary. Mary was asked what kind of response we’d gotten from mail-in ballots in recent years; she could only recall that they were not great results, but not as bad as in some prior years[8]. Vaughn suggested that we should get a better response with a professional balloting service. Drew amended his motion to allow for the costs of creating and mailing ballots to be charged up to $1500, and the motion was approved unanimously.

Public comments (regarding items not on agenda): Monica Zoltanski introduced herself as a candidate for Senate District 9. She provided her extensive credentials for the office and reminded us that she’s attended many previous GCC meetings to speak up for Dimple Dell Park and its issues. She’s learned of many other issues that face our district, including transportation, cycling, and others. Thrift and hard work are two characteristics that define her. She is a write-in candidate.

Treasurer’s report: Drew Weaver provided the report as of Oct. 3: the GCC has $1911.14 in checking, $12,844.10 in savings, for a total of $14,755.24. He just received a bill from Tod for $35.96 for our annual website domain name fee, which council members agreed to reimburse.

More public comments: Sandra Haak, a resident of Sandy, suggested painting a bicycle logo in the middle of the lane on Dimple Dell, which is done in other areas of the County. She also suggested looking at our current precinct maps in deciding where we want to expand into the old Granite boundaries.

Michael adjourned the meeting at 9:05 p.m.

[1] To reiterate Big Cottonwood Canyons’ major issues

[2] One definition of this is “A technology & approach for organizations and whole communities that combines feedback, through real-time public displays of resource use and environmental conditions, with thoughts and actions of community to engage, motivate, empower & celebrate sustainable thought and action.” This is from https://environmentaldashboard.org/.

[3] Due to technical difficulties, the CWC staff was unable to go through the presentation that they had emailed to GCC members prior to the meeting. Instead, we mainly discussed issues important to Granite residents. The presentation can be seen via the link on the home page of the GCC website, www.granitecommunitycouncil.net.

[4] These ‘sidewalks to nowhere’ have been concerns in the past, namely that walkers will use them, then expect that they can similarly walk in safety where there are no sidewalks.

[5] There are many other instances of the bicycle symbol painted on a single travel lane without room for a bicycle lane, including Danish Rd., Holladay Blvd., and Big Cottonwood Rd. Their function seems to remind drivers of the possibility of encountering bicyclists.

[6] This raised the question of, are we trying to solve a bicycle lane problem that doesn’t exist, if there have been no accidents? Good question.

[7] Recent examples have been CH’s decisions on the Hi-T intersection and changes to the disappearing bike lane, across from Giverney. The latter issue required CH residents who bike that non-lane to appear before the CH City Council to speak.

[8] Upon researching her records, the 2014 results showed a total of 179 valid ballots, with 7 spoiled (voted in wrong district or for both candidates).

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Minutes of the Granite Community Council

Date: September 5, 2018
Location: Metropolitan Water District Offices Conference Room

3430 East Danish Road

 Council Members Present:

Michael Braun, Chair (Dist. 1 & 2); Gorm Klungervik, Vice-Chair (Dist. 1 & 2); Greg Schiffman (Dist. 3); Vaughn Cox (Dist. 3); Katie Clayton (Dist. 4); Drew Weaver, Treasurer (Dist. 4); Nycha Schlegel (Dist. 5); Josh Kanter (Dist. 5); Bill Clayton, Secretary (Dist. 6); and Mary Young (non-voting Chief Administrative Officer).

Council Members Absent:

Jeff Summerhays (Alt., Dist. 1 & 2); Spencer Mortensen (Alt., Dist. 3); and Susie Albertson (Dist. 6).

Guests Present:

Ron Vance, Salt Lake County (SLCo) Planning Commission

Krissy Gilmore, Logan Simpson (Consultants)

Dave Fields, General Manager of Snowbird

Anthony Sudweeks, Candidate for Utah State House District 49

Jake Young, SLCo Planning Program Manager

Randy Thomas, Unified Police Department (UPD) Midvale Precinct Chief

Det. Paula Stinson, UPD

Call to Order: The meeting was convened at 7:00 pm by Michael Braun, Chair, who led attendees in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Minutes: The August 1st minutes were considered.  Drew objected to an editorial comment on page 4 in square brackets.  Mary agreed to take the comment out, whereupon Drew moved for approval, Greg seconded, and the minutes were approved unanimously.

Public Comments: Mary said that bicyclists have made many comments about the disappearance of the bike lane along the east side of Wasatch Blvd. near the Giverny development.  Cottonwood Heights (CH) is going to work on the problem.  Mary summarized the Dimple Dell Rd. issue regarding bike lanes and gutter, which was discussed at length between Sandy and SLCo several years ago. In order to provide sufficient additional width to provide for bike lanes, infrastructure improvements (storm drains) and right-of-way problems would create impacts on residents that would drive its expense up the wall. It seems to be basically impossible. But we would still like to hear from both SLCo and Sandy about how to possibly make it safer for bicyclists/pedestrians without widening. [Update: This will be discussed further at our Oct. 3rd meeting by Madeline Francisco-Galang, SLCo].

Michael commented on the SLCo Planning Commission meeting regarding the Dimple Dell zoning issue (Jenke Estates), during which several improprieties were noted.  The meeting will be continued on Sept. 12th.  Michael surmised that the County is making multiple deviations from major ordinances.  He also noted there is a $1,000 fee to make an appeal on a zoning issue.

Tod Young presented a proposal regarding municipal support for the GCC.  Many entities (especially adjacent cities) make decisions that impinge upon unincorporated Granite residents.  Tod proposes allowing city residents within historical Granite to be elected to the GCC.  Also, we could ask SLCo, CH, and Sandy to officially recognize the GCC.  Drew expressed support in principle.  Michael said that our bylaws would need to be changed.  Katie commented that the unincorporated representation would get diluted.  The council decided to discuss this issue further at the October meeting and reach a decision as to whether to pursue this.

Snowbird’s Transportation Changes: Dave Fields, General Manager of Snowbird, provided a Powerpoint presentation that explained many of the things that Snowbird has done in recent years to help reduce canyon vehicle congestion and its impacts.

Powder days can be difficult in terms of traffic.  Employees have spent up to 3 hours on the bus during a powder day.  Some skiers have said that they won’t ski at Snowbird anymore because of traffic and parking issues. Single-occupancy vehicles are the biggest problem.  All Cottonwood Canyon resorts provide free bus passes with a season pass.  Snowbird works closely with Utah Transit Authority (UTA) to provide frequent ski bus service. Snowbird employees also receive a free UTA bus pass provided by Snowbird.  Employee Rideshare vans are also available, with Snowbird paying $800 per month per van.  Dave reported that last season 59,000 guest and 41,000 employee bus rides were provided by UTA to Snowbird.

Greg asked whether Snowbird has done a survey about customer satisfaction with the UTA bus system.  Many skiers complain that they have to stand up and that there’s little room for equipment.

Introduced in 2016, Snowbird’s Reducing Individual Driving for the Environment (R.I.D.E.) Program helps to reduce traffic congestion and improve air quality by incentivizing guests and employees to carpool and take the bus.  Rewards include better/VIP 3+ parking, half-priced lift tickets, and early-lift access.  Last season 224,000 miles were eliminated from single-occupancy trips not driven to Snowbird from guests and employees, as recorded by the R.I.D.E. program.

Snowbird spent $420,000 last year for rideshare and buses.  They also have a deal with Canyon Transportation to fill in the gaps.

Snowbird is developing a mobile app to increase the ease of use of the RIDE program so you can find people in your area who want to carpool.  There will be rewards for people who give rides or find rides.  This has been in the works for a year and a half.  They will allow other resorts to use the app under their own brands.

Some people book a hotel package that includes Canyon Transportation, but then they get Uber or Lyft to go up the canyon then take Canyon Transportation down.  They are working with Lyft on a possible partnership.

Alta has adopted the same programs with UTA and is starting to do carpools.

Nycha talked about hitchhikers.  There’s a de facto hitchhiking place at the bottom of the canyon but not at the top.  She suggested that signs be placed at the bottom of the canyon designating Alta vs. Snowbird.

Wasatch Canyons General Plan Update/Discussion: Jake Young and Chrissie Gilmour presented the Wasatch Canyons General Plan update. Jake does regional planning for SLCo. The General Plan was last updated in 1989.  The USFS is on the steering committee that is overseeing the update. There are 19 specific goals in the plan.

1 – Improve quality of recreation for visitors and residents while meeting future demand, and Improve public access for recreational opportunities (in particular Bonneville Shoreline Trail).

2 – Explore and implement options for dedicated funding sources for capital improvements.  Provide ongoing support for maintenance and operations to support growing demands of the canyons. Several strategies have been proposed, including user fees.

3 – Support and enhance year-round mass transit to and within the canyons.

4 – Add roadway facilities to enhance safety and mode choice in the Wasatch canyons, including bike lanes and pullouts.

5 – Meet the growing demands for residents, businesses, and visitors by enhancing and improving public utility systems.

6 – Support year-round parking management to provide parking in designated locations that provide safety, scenic quality and environmental protection throughout the canyons and foothills.

7 – Educate and encourage residents, employees, and visitors to enhance active transportation facilities to promote a culture of bicycling and walking.

8 – Enhance pedestrian safety at trailheads, parking lots, and other public facilities, with additions such as crosswalks with flashing signals.

9 – Ensure the management of watersheds in the Wasatch Mountains to protect water quality and quantity.

10 – Ensure that future use of and development in the Wasatch Canyons is managed to protect wildlife, fisheries and habitat and to reduce human-wildlife conflicts.

11 – Enhance public awareness and stewardship of environmental and recreational values and practices.

12 – Maintain and increase the conservation of natural lands that provide regional significance towards ecosystems, watershed, and recreational opportunities. Such land preservation includes purchasing land from willing sellers.

13 – Prepare the canyons and foothills for potential natural hazards and address the impacts caused by aging infrastructure, which includes resiliency program to prepare for fire, natural disasters, etc.

14 – Ensure that federal, state and local agencies and entities with jurisdictional responsibilities in the Wasatch Canyons planning area coordinate their efforts and planning processes to provide for efficient and effective management of government services and resources of the canyons.

15 – Regulatory tool review.  Review and update county ordinances to further implement the vision, goals and strategies of the General Plan.

16 – Raise appreciation and stewardship of canyon beauty through branding, aesthetics and development guidance.

17 – Support engagement of citizens’ groups and volunteers in planning and management activities in the canyons.

18 – Support continuation and viability of resorts and businesses in canyons.

19 – Support the extension of broadband and other communications hardware to enhance communications services in the canyons.

Please send comments to Mary, or complete the online survey at slco.org/wasatch-canyons.

Vaughn said that ski resort activity has increased much faster than non-ski activity.  Jake said that parking in canyons will not expand due to USFS policy.  The General Plan does not affect the Town of Alta.  Jake proposed better management of parking areas.  Vaughn responded that expansion and development of ski resorts takes place, but no expansion of facilities for non-skiers (picnic sites, trailheads, restrooms, etc.).

Chrissie’s consulting firm has another year on its contract.  Their plan is for acceptance of the updated plan by SLCo in 2020.

Nycha commented that this study/plan is a waste of taxpayer money. Katie added that perhaps other entities involved in the canyons are a waste of taxpayer money.

Tod said that the County Planning Commission revised the Foothill Canyon Overlay Zone (FCOZ), which is used to regulate development in and around the canyons.  They relied heavily on the 1989 General Plan.  The County wants public input for the General Plan so that future ordinance changes have a foundation.  The Plan is essential for future planning efforts.

Greg noted that the fact that we have more than ten entities running the canyons says it all.

Unified Police Department (UPD): Det. Paula Stinson advised that not much happened in West Granite last month.  East Granite had a graffiti arrest and one vandalism.  At the request of residents and Mary, they have put an extra patrol on Dimple Dell Rd. for speeding.

Chief Thomas said that there’s a stealth data collector that can be put on a pole.  It collects the numbers of cars and their speeds.  This can be used along Dimple Dell.

Meet the Candidate: Anthony Sudweeks is running for Utah State House District 49. He has been a public school teacher and currently runs a nonprofit charter school in the Glendale area of SLC.  He feels that school funding is inadequate, as Utah is the lowest funded state in the country, and our poor school performance is a result of that funding.  Utah used to be in the top 10 states for funding and performance in the 1980’s and 1990’s.

He is also passionate about air quality and feels that community councils are the backbone of society.

Gorm asked how to get education money into the classroom rather than into administration.  Anthony said that Washington State implemented a statewide minimum pay rate for teachers.  Utah is second lowest in administrative costs.  Districts are full of highly paid bureaucrats.  No current legislator is a school principal with experience in school budgeting.  Drew has a friend who is a teacher, who got a brand new computer every few months.  Anthony replied that he had same computer for 6 years.  Vaughn asked whether teachers should have merit pay.  Anthony supports merit pay in principle, but says that it’s impossible to implement in practice.  Proficiency differs based on the demographics of students.  It’s hard to measure merit.

Greg asked about Tier 3 and said it would increase the price of gas.  Anthony responded that it would only be a few cents.

Michael asked about Park City, where they increased property taxes to help fund schools more.  Michael also asked him how long he will last in politics if elected.  He said as long as he can.  He is passionate about teaching and knocked on doors for a year to fill up his charter school in Glendale.

GCC Picks & Pans: None

League of Unincorporated Community Councils (LUCC)/Association of Community Councils Together (ACCT) meeting updates: Mary reported that storm water fees were discussed again and it is a complicated enough subject that the consultant will continue to work on it.  It has been decided that if approved, it will be a fee rather than a tax.  The County will do open houses to get public input on the subject in October.  The fee would be levied on existing properties (not just homes, but also schools, businesses, and churches).  Vaughn said that when he built his house, the largest fee was a storm water fee.  Greg advised that the fee could go up or down.  Nycha says that they haven’t yet made the case for the need for the fee.  Mary responded that they don’t have funding to fix existing stormwater drainage problems.  [Update 9/25: At this LUCC meeting, the plan to charge $8/home/month was reported. This is still not approved.]

Also reported at the LUCC, was that the County has only three people in code enforcement due to the formation of metro townships and Millcreek City.  [Update 9/25: At this LUCC, it was announced that four more code enforcement personnel are planned to be hired in early 2019, should funding permit.]

David Green reported that the Willow Creek annexation process is not being done in accordance with annexation laws, which prohibit using the provision of contracted municipal services as one of the two services that an annexing city must provide to residents to annex them. [Update 9/25: It seems that Sandy annexed Willow Creek properties anyway.]

Mary and others are still working on improving bike lanes [Update: The bike lane on the east side of Wasatch Blvd. has been expanded; some additional work needs to be completed, however].

Regarding graffiti abatement in Little Cottonwood Canyon, as a result of the recent Salt Lake Trib article and meeting in Sandy, the County Council might authorize $100K to help with UPD patrol overtime for arresting taggers. [Update 9/26: Councilman Bradley worked with the County Council and UPD and they have authorized UPD’s requested $50,000 for overtime to arrest taggers. Jim continues to help with other associated issues on graffiti as are Sen. Niederhauser, Rep. Spendlove, and Dave Fields.]

ACCT: Greg said that there was a vote against the Central Wasatch Commission (CWC) federal act.  Big Cottonwood Canyon is desperate for funds to fix problems (trails, transportation, and toilets).  Greg said that they’re good to go with the Brighton incorporation ballot because Lt. Gov. Cox is not holding it up.

Drew asked whether Greg will attend ACCT meetings regularly, and Greg said he would.  Drew suggested making Greg the official ACCT representative throughout the remainder of the year, which Greg agreed to.  Gorm and Drew have not been able to attend.

Treasurer’s report: Drew reported that we have Checking $2,056.90 and Savings $12,842.57, for a total of $14,900.47. Mary had printing expenses for making copies of the Little Cottonwood Canyon transportation study in the amount of $125.76.  The motion to approve reimbursement was unanimous.

Vote by Mail on resolutions: Michael liked the fact that all council members expressed their voices on the CWC topic via email.  We should have better planning of our agendas to discuss issues in advance, however.  We should decrease agenda items at meetings to provide more time for discussion.  Katie said there was no time at the last meeting to discuss the White Pine issue.  In that instance it was good to have an email vote.  Drew suggested being more strict about the use of time by invited people at meetings.  Nycha recommended that it’s a waste of time for people to read stuff to us at meetings that we could have read on our own.  Michael suggested putting time limits on agenda items.  Vaughn suggested sending out attachments with the agenda.

Internet: Greg said there is Comcast fiber in the ground for 2021 introduction, including the triangle area.  Bill mentioned that Larry Walker is getting 40 megs from Century Link.

CWC: Drew presented resolution 2 at the last CWC meeting, which resulted in a meeting between people with the South Despain Ditch Co. and CWC staff.  Greg passed out resolution 1 to the House joint committee.

Greg said that Norm’s lawsuit is being settled in which Mountain Accord admits guilt.  At the Natural Resource committee, Chairman Stratton said that any land swap or deal would have to be vetted by the legislature.  Rep. Mia Love won’t sponsor the bill until there is consensus.  The legislature will have numerous meetings with CWC.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:02 pm.